Tahiyatul masjid evidence

Today I was in the Masjid for Maghrib salah and just before the salah the Imam (who happens to be Salafi) gave a short talk in Arabic, which was translated after. This talk was about praying tahiyatul masjid. I'm guessing it was direct at us followers of the Hanafi mathab who were there as we were sitting next to the Imam while he prayed his tahiyatul masjid.

Some of the brothers and I would like to know; what is the evidence for the Hanafi view that it is mukruh to pray tahiyatul masjid between 'Asr and Maghrib?

Edit: I've found this hadith on central-mosque.com

Uqba b. 'Amir said (RA): There were the times at which Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade us to pray, or bury our dead: When the sun begins to rise till it is fully up, when the sun is at its height at midday till it passes over the meridian, and when the sun draws near to setting till it sets. [Muslim]

Is this the only evidence? And what do the other mathahib say about this hadith?

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Last edited by Yaqubi; 30-05-2009 at 10:05 AM.       

This isn't the only evidence as other Ahadeeth are also mentioned in Saheeh Bukhari & Abi Dawud and most scholars agree that its not permissable to pray ANY NAF'L SALAH at those times.

Narrated Amr ibn Anbasah as-Sulami: I asked: Apostle of Allah, in which part of night the supplication is more likely to be accepted?

He replied: In the last part: Pray as much as you like, for the prayer is attended by the angels and it is recorded till you offer the dawn prayer; then stop praying when the sun is rising till it has reached the height of one or two lances, for it rises between the two horns of the Devil, and the infidels offer prayer for it (at that time). Then pray as much as you like, because the prayer is witnessed and recorded till the shadow of a lance be- comes equal to it. Then cease prayer, for at that time the Hell-fire is heated up and doors of Hell are opened.

When the sun declines, pray as much as you like, for the prayer is witnessed till you pray the afternoon prayer; then cease prayer till the sun sets, for it sets between the horns of the Devil, and (at that time) the infidels offer prayer for it. He narrated a lengthy tradition.

Abbas said: AbuSalam narrated this tradition in a similar manner from AbuUmamah. If I have made a mistake unintentionally, I beg pardon of Allah and repent to Him. (Abi Dawu)

What the Shaf'ae & Hanbali scholars disagree upon is Tahiyyatul-Masjid (specifically) which they believe is permissable even at these times.

There isn't a single piece of evidence (specifically) to suggest that Tahiyyatul-Masjid can be done at this time from the Sunnah but the Shaf'ae & Hanbali scholars have done their Ijtehaad based upon missed prayers, Salat of Tawaf, Salatul-Khauf etc(in these times) and also based upon the Hadeeth of Rausl-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) in which he (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) ordered:

When any one of you enters the Mosque, he should not sit down until he has prayed two rak’ahs” [Agreed upon]

while the Hanafees have taken the Hadeeth (of prohibition) on its face value and applied it since the Hanafees don't consider Tahiyyatul-Masjid an obligation, in summary since it isn't obligated you don't go against the command of prohibition and perform it.

Shaf'aes and Hanbalees overwrite the prohibition because to them Tahiyyatul-Masjid isn't just or ordinary Nafl (like Hanafees).

So this is matter in which scholars have differed and may Allah (SWT) reward them all and give us the ability to follow them.

Allah (SWT) knows best. 

Muadh_Khan

 30-05-2009, 02:33 PM    #3 

Yaqubi 

Junior MemberJoin Date: Mar 2008Madhhab: HanafiPosts: 17   Re: Tahiyatul masjid evidence --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 brother.

It's amazing how narrow minded some 'Salafi's' are that they reject such differences of opinion.

Once a Salafi Imam here told a brother he is not allowed in the masjid because he didn't touch feet. They are very strict against the effort of Tabligh too and don't allow bayan or reading of hadith in the Masjid.

Please make dua for my city as we really need a scholar(s) from Ahl-Sunnah.     

Yaqubi    30-05-2009, 02:40 PM 

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46411